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Police Trap Peaceful Protesters in Denver
A calm political protest quickly turned chaotic as anxious Denver police surrounded protestors peacefully marching toward the Democratic National Convention Center. After trapping the crowd between two buildings, hundreds of officers used pepper spray, batons and unwarranted aggression. After being surrounded for 20 minutes, two ANP producers managed to escape after recording the whole affair.
Keywords: Media, Politics, aggression, Barack Obama, Democratic National Convention, Denver, DNC, freedom of assembly, freedom of speech, pepper spray, police, protest, tear gas, violence
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If you are going to 'peacefully protest' then why wear bandana's covering your face??Thanks a lot.
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honestly, I had not realized that the day had come where you could be detained for "probably" going to do something.
Many anti war protesters have been murdered in the USA
Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh describes 'executive assassination ring'
http://www.infowars.com/hersh-cheney-ran-ss-style-political-assassination-unit/
http://www.myspace.com/Liepchen
http://www.alcuppett.com
http://www.stewwebb.com/investigative_reporter_seymour_hersh_describes_executive_assassination_ring031109.htm
http://www.minnpost.com/ericblackblog/2009/03/11/7310/investigative_reporter_seymour_hersh_describes_executive_assassination_ring
REUTERS/Fadi Al-AssaadJournalist Seymour Hersh speaking in Doha at an Al Jazeera forum on the media in 2007.
Photo of Sign in New Jersey
At a “Great Conversations” event at the University of Minnesota last night, legendary investigative reporter Seymour Hersh may have made a little more news than he intended by talking about new alleged instances of domestic spying by the CIA, and about an ongoing covert military operation that he called an “executive assassination ring.”
Hersh spoke with great confidence about these findings from his current reporting, which he hasn’t written about yet.
In an email exchange afterward, Hersh said that his statements were “an honest response to a question” from the event’s moderator, U of M Political Scientist Larry Jacobs and “not something I wanted to dwell about in public.”
Hersh didn’t take back the statements, which he said arise from reporting he is doing for a book, but that it might be a year or two before he has what he needs on the topic to be “effective...that is, empirical, for even the most skeptical.”
The evening of great conversation, featuring Walter Mondale and Hersh, moderated by Jacobs and titled “America’s Constitutional Crisis,” looked to be a mostly historical review of events that have tested our Constitution, by a journalist and a high government official who had experience with many of the crises.
And it was mostly historical, and a great conversation, in which Hersh and Mondale talked about the patterns by which presidents seem to get intoxicated by executive power, frustrated by the limitations on that power from Congress and the public, drawn into improper covert actions that exceed their constitutional powers, in the belief that they can get results and will never be found out. Despite a few references to the Founding Fathers, the history was mostly recent, starting with the Vietnam War with much of it arising from the George W. Bush administration, which both men roundly denounced.
At the end of one answer by Hersh about how these things tend to happen, Jacobs asked: “And do they continue to happen to this day?”
Replied Hersh:
“Yuh. After 9/11, I haven’t written about this yet, but the Central Intelligence Agency was very deeply involved in domestic activities against people they thought to be enemies of the state. Without any legal authority for it. They haven’t been called on it yet. That does happen.
"Right now, today, there was a story in the New York Times that if you read it carefully mentioned something known as the Joint Special Operations Command -- JSOC it’s called. It is a special wing of our special operations community that is set up independently. They do not report to anybody, except in the Bush-Cheney days, they reported directly to the Cheney office. They did not report to the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff or to Mr. [Robert] Gates, the secretary of defense. They reported directly to him. ...
"Congress has no oversight of it. It’s an executive assassination ring essentially, and it’s been going on and on and on. Just today in the Times there was a story that its leaders, a three star admiral named [William H.] McRaven, ordered a stop to it because there were so many collateral deaths.
"Under President Bush’s authority, they’ve been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving. That’s been going on, in the name of all of us.
"It’s complicated because the guys doing it are not murderers, and yet they are committing what we would normally call murder. It’s a very complicated issue. Because they are young men that went into the Special Forces. The Delta Forces you’ve heard about. Navy Seal teams. Highly specialized.
"In many cases, they were the best and the brightest. Really, no exaggerations. Really fine guys that went in to do the kind of necessary jobs that they think you need to do to protect America. And then they find themselves torturing people.
"I’ve had people say to me -- five years ago, I had one say: ‘What do you call it when you interrogate somebody and you leave them bleeding and they don’t get any medical committee and two days later he dies. Is that murder? What happens if I get before a committee?’
"But they’re not gonna get before a committee.”
Hersh, the best-known investigative reporter of his generation, writes about these kinds of issues for The New Yorker. He has written often about JSOC, including, last July that:
“Under the Bush Administration’s interpretation of the law, clandestine military activities, unlike covert C.I.A. operations, do not need to be depicted in a Finding, because the President has a constitutional right to command combat forces in the field without congressional interference.”
(“Finding” refers to a special document that a president must issue, although not make public, to authorize covert CIA actions.)
Here is a tape of the full Mondale-Hersh-Jacobs colloquy, a little over an hour, without the audience Q and A. If you want to look for the Hersh statement quoted above, it’s about at the 7:30 mark.
The rest of the evening was, as expected, full of worry and wisdom and quite a bit of Bush-bashing.
Jacobs walked the two elder statesmen through their experiences of:
The My Lai massacre, which Hersh first revealed publicly and which he last night called “the end of innocence about us and war.”
The Pentagon Papers case, which Mondale called the best example of the “government’s potential for vast public deception.”
Henry Kissinger’s secret dealings, mostly relating to the Vietnam War. (Hersh, who has written volumes about Kissinger, said that he will always believe that whereas ordinary people count sheep to fall asleep, Kissinger “has to count burned and maimed Cambodian babies.”)
The Church Committee investigation of CIA and FBI abuses, in which Mondale played a major role. (He talked about the fact that FBI director J. Edgar Hoover not only spied on Martin Luther King but literally tried to drive him to suicide.)
The Iran Contra scandal. (Hersh said the Reagan administration came to office with a clear goal of finding a way to finance covert actions, such as the funding of the Nicaraguan Contras, without appropriations so that Congress wouldn't know about them. Mondale noted that Reagan had signed a law barring further aid to the Contras, then participated in a scheme to keep the aid flowing. Hersh said that two key veterans of Iran-Contra, Dick Cheney and national security official Elliot Abrams, were reunited in the George W. Bush White House and decided that the key lesson from Iran-Contra was that too many people in the administration knew about it.)
And the Bush-Cheney years. (Said Hersh: “The contempt for Congress in the Bush-Cheney White House was extaordinary.” Said Mondale of his successor, Cheney, and his inner circle: “they ran a government within the government.” Hersh added: “Eight or nine neoconservatives took over our country.” Mondale said that the precedents of abuse of vice presidential power by Cheney would remain "like a loaded pistol that you leave on the dining room table.")
Jacobs pressed both men on the question of whether the frequent abuses of power show that the Constitution fails, because these things keep happening, or whether it works, because these things keep coming to light.
Mondale stuck with the happy answer. “The system has come through again and again,” he said. Presidents always think they will get away with it, but eventually reporters like Hersh bring things to light, the public “starts smelling this stuff,” the courts and the Congress get involved. Presidents “always, in the long run, find out that the system is stronger than they are.”
Hersh seemed more troubled by the repetitions of the pattern. The “beautiful thing about our system” is that eventually we get new leaders, he said. “The evil twosome, Cheney and Bush, left,” Hersh said. But he also said “it’s really amazing to me that we manage to get such bad leadership, so consistently.”
And he added that both the press and the public let down their guard in the aftermath of 9/11.
“The major newspapers joined the [Bush] team,” Hersh said. Top editors passed the message to investigative reporters not to “pick holes” in what Bush was doing. Violations of the Bill of Rights happened in the plain sight of the public. It was not only tolerated, but Bush was re-elected.
And even Mondale admitted that one of his greatest successes, laws reforming the FBI and CIA in the aftermath of the Church Committee, were supposed to fix the problem so that “we would never have these problems again in the lifetime of anyone alive at the time, but of course we did.”
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Many anti war protesters have been murdered in the USA
Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh describes 'executive assassination ring'
http://www.infowars.com/hersh-cheney-ran-ss-style-political-assassination-unit/
http://www.myspace.com/Liepchen
http://www.alcuppett.com
http://www.stewwebb.com/investigative_reporter_seymour_hersh_describes_executive_assassination_ring031109.htm
http://www.minnpost.com/ericblackblog/2009/03/11/7310/investigative_reporter_seymour_hersh_describes_executive_assassination_ring
REUTERS/Fadi Al-AssaadJournalist Seymour Hersh speaking in Doha at an Al Jazeera forum on the media in 2007.
Photo of Sign in New Jersey
At a “Great Conversations” event at the University of Minnesota last night, legendary investigative reporter Seymour Hersh may have made a little more news than he intended by talking about new alleged instances of domestic spying by the CIA, and about an ongoing covert military operation that he called an “executive assassination ring.”
Hersh spoke with great confidence about these findings from his current reporting, which he hasn’t written about yet.
In an email exchange afterward, Hersh said that his statements were “an honest response to a question” from the event’s moderator, U of M Political Scientist Larry Jacobs and “not something I wanted to dwell about in public.”
Hersh didn’t take back the statements, which he said arise from reporting he is doing for a book, but that it might be a year or two before he has what he needs on the topic to be “effective...that is, empirical, for even the most skeptical.”
The evening of great conversation, featuring Walter Mondale and Hersh, moderated by Jacobs and titled “America’s Constitutional Crisis,” looked to be a mostly historical review of events that have tested our Constitution, by a journalist and a high government official who had experience with many of the crises.
And it was mostly historical, and a great conversation, in which Hersh and Mondale talked about the patterns by which presidents seem to get intoxicated by executive power, frustrated by the limitations on that power from Congress and the public, drawn into improper covert actions that exceed their constitutional powers, in the belief that they can get results and will never be found out. Despite a few references to the Founding Fathers, the history was mostly recent, starting with the Vietnam War with much of it arising from the George W. Bush administration, which both men roundly denounced.
At the end of one answer by Hersh about how these things tend to happen, Jacobs asked: “And do they continue to happen to this day?”
Replied Hersh:
“Yuh. After 9/11, I haven’t written about this yet, but the Central Intelligence Agency was very deeply involved in domestic activities against people they thought to be enemies of the state. Without any legal authority for it. They haven’t been called on it yet. That does happen.
"Right now, today, there was a story in the New York Times that if you read it carefully mentioned something known as the Joint Special Operations Command -- JSOC it’s called. It is a special wing of our special operations community that is set up independently. They do not report to anybody, except in the Bush-Cheney days, they reported directly to the Cheney office. They did not report to the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff or to Mr. [Robert] Gates, the secretary of defense. They reported directly to him. ...
"Congress has no oversight of it. It’s an executive assassination ring essentially, and it’s been going on and on and on. Just today in the Times there was a story that its leaders, a three star admiral named [William H.] McRaven, ordered a stop to it because there were so many collateral deaths.
"Under President Bush’s authority, they’ve been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving. That’s been going on, in the name of all of us.
"It’s complicated because the guys doing it are not murderers, and yet they are committing what we would normally call murder. It’s a very complicated issue. Because they are young men that went into the Special Forces. The Delta Forces you’ve heard about. Navy Seal teams. Highly specialized.
"In many cases, they were the best and the brightest. Really, no exaggerations. Really fine guys that went in to do the kind of necessary jobs that they think you need to do to protect America. And then they find themselves torturing people.
"I’ve had people say to me -- five years ago, I had one say: ‘What do you call it when you interrogate somebody and you leave them bleeding and they don’t get any medical committee and two days later he dies. Is that murder? What happens if I get before a committee?’
"But they’re not gonna get before a committee.”
Hersh, the best-known investigative reporter of his generation, writes about these kinds of issues for The New Yorker. He has written often about JSOC, including, last July that:
“Under the Bush Administration’s interpretation of the law, clandestine military activities, unlike covert C.I.A. operations, do not need to be depicted in a Finding, because the President has a constitutional right to command combat forces in the field without congressional interference.”
(“Finding” refers to a special document that a president must issue, although not make public, to authorize covert CIA actions.)
Here is a tape of the full Mondale-Hersh-Jacobs colloquy, a little over an hour, without the audience Q and A. If you want to look for the Hersh statement quoted above, it’s about at the 7:30 mark.
The rest of the evening was, as expected, full of worry and wisdom and quite a bit of Bush-bashing.
Jacobs walked the two elder statesmen through their experiences of:
The My Lai massacre, which Hersh first revealed publicly and which he last night called “the end of innocence about us and war.”
The Pentagon Papers case, which Mondale called the best example of the “government’s potential for vast public deception.”
Henry Kissinger’s secret dealings, mostly relating to the Vietnam War. (Hersh, who has written volumes about Kissinger, said that he will always believe that whereas ordinary people count sheep to fall asleep, Kissinger “has to count burned and maimed Cambodian babies.”)
The Church Committee investigation of CIA and FBI abuses, in which Mondale played a major role. (He talked about the fact that FBI director J. Edgar Hoover not only spied on Martin Luther King but literally tried to drive him to suicide.)
The Iran Contra scandal. (Hersh said the Reagan administration came to office with a clear goal of finding a way to finance covert actions, such as the funding of the Nicaraguan Contras, without appropriations so that Congress wouldn't know about them. Mondale noted that Reagan had signed a law barring further aid to the Contras, then participated in a scheme to keep the aid flowing. Hersh said that two key veterans of Iran-Contra, Dick Cheney and national security official Elliot Abrams, were reunited in the George W. Bush White House and decided that the key lesson from Iran-Contra was that too many people in the administration knew about it.)
And the Bush-Cheney years. (Said Hersh: “The contempt for Congress in the Bush-Cheney White House was extaordinary.” Said Mondale of his successor, Cheney, and his inner circle: “they ran a government within the government.” Hersh added: “Eight or nine neoconservatives took over our country.” Mondale said that the precedents of abuse of vice presidential power by Cheney would remain "like a loaded pistol that you leave on the dining room table.")
Jacobs pressed both men on the question of whether the frequent abuses of power show that the Constitution fails, because these things keep happening, or whether it works, because these things keep coming to light.
Mondale stuck with the happy answer. “The system has come through again and again,” he said. Presidents always think they will get away with it, but eventually reporters like Hersh bring things to light, the public “starts smelling this stuff,” the courts and the Congress get involved. Presidents “always, in the long run, find out that the system is stronger than they are.”
Hersh seemed more troubled by the repetitions of the pattern. The “beautiful thing about our system” is that eventually we get new leaders, he said. “The evil twosome, Cheney and Bush, left,” Hersh said. But he also said “it’s really amazing to me that we manage to get such bad leadership, so consistently.”
And he added that both the press and the public let down their guard in the aftermath of 9/11.
“The major newspapers joined the [Bush] team,” Hersh said. Top editors passed the message to investigative reporters not to “pick holes” in what Bush was doing. Violations of the Bill of Rights happened in the plain sight of the public. It was not only tolerated, but Bush was re-elected.
And even Mondale admitted that one of his greatest successes, laws reforming the FBI and CIA in the aftermath of the Church Committee, were supposed to fix the problem so that “we would never have these problems again in the lifetime of anyone alive at the time, but of course we did.”
All logos and trademarks in this site are property of their respective owner. FAIR USE NOTICE: This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml
my reply
Did I hear that comment right?
I quote,
"That's total BS, if somebody DID fire a gun or do something else like that then the police would be allowed to intervene."
So you have basically said, that you would have waited for an innocent person to be killed before you took action.
And why would they wear bandanas ? If according to you they were doing nothing wrong? If they are completely innocent they wouldn't have to worry about tear gas.
And don't give me that crap about how the cops are all bad, with a bad reputation.Do you know why they have a bad reputation???
Because of fucking idiotic fucking people who think they know so much more than everybody,that they can do anything that they fucking want , but when they finally get caught and kicked off of their pedestal, instead of taking credit for their actions they blame the person that caught them,the police. And then other assholes look at that asshole's videos on youtube or his blog about how bad the cops are,and so on,and so on.
Until,another ignorant idiot (you) hears the news and says,"Dude, I'm just going to assume that's true,and post contradictory comments on a subject that I obviously know nothing about!"
Do you honestly think that once a person becomes a cop, they just magically poof into an evil, constitution violating monster, who prey psycologically on the general public??
I have three brothers and a sister, and every one of us is supported in many ways by our mother who is,by the way,a police officer.So if you want to post another comment trying back your ridiculous claims,I'll be happy to shoot you down again.
hey therooster
yeah, we have "public protection", and phone tapping, and the threat of losing all of our constitutional rights if we're merely *suspected* of terrorism. That's total BS, if somebody DID fire a gun or do something else like that then the police would be allowed to intervene. And I quote
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. "
And they're wearing bandannas probably out of fear of the police tear gassing them, I know if I was out there and there were craploads of cops EVERYWHERE that I would think that
I was about to get teargassed and I'd be scared as hell, and I don't know who wouldn't be, because THAT'S the reputation that the police that are supposed to PROTECT us have, because it happens ALL the time, and NOBODY is doing anything about it because they feel like they can't because if they make any threats, they're a terrorist, and with the media bombarding you with things promoting the american "culture" all the time, the human behavior is to not want to stand alone, and they're PREYING on that factor of human psychology! It's total BS and I really hope that there's a rally like this in my area, because I'm so there.
Civil Freedoms v. Personal Space
I can understand a certain reluctance when looking at this video. Why didn't the media report this? Not all facets of the media are conservative and something would have been said.
That being said, I don't agree that bandanas make people threatening protesters, nor do I believe that the government should overstep ANY of its bounds... the government should be afraid of US, not the other way around.
Furthermore, the whole reason they've set up an area for protesters is for security purposes - just like them shutting down I-25 for 3 hours before and after Obama's speech. Although it's unfortunate that we have crazy people who'd make attempts on innocent peoples' lives, it DOES abridge certain freedoms we are given by the constitution.
The whole purpose of having protests is to GET under peoples' skins, to invade their territory, both mentally and physically. Otherwise, protesting does nothing, is heard by no one and doesn't have the same call-to-attention as the famous riots we know from history books. Sacrifice is the underlying theme in American political history - we just have to decide what we're willing to sacrifice: our civil freedoms or our personal space.
Are you kidding me???
If you are going to 'peacefully protest' then why wear bandana's covering your face?? Are you not standing for what you believe in??
Right, wrong or indifferent those people were told to stay in one place and they consistently tried to circumvent the police....they got what they deserve.
If they had gotten near the convention center and then some crazy person opened fire on the group and they were injured (or worse killed), the same idiots would then be on the news asking where the police were and why there weren't protected.......
Get a freakin' life people....your 15 seconds are up! Now go away!!!!!
By your logic
Alright, ignoring the fact that that same group's last protest turned into a riot, let's put forth a situation based on your logic, a man who you know to have a violent history walks up to you and says "I'm gonna find you tomorrow and shoot you in the face!!!!".
Would you simply ignore the comment and skip on home or would you think 'HHmm, maybe this guy's serious maybe he's not, but just in case he is, I think I'll make sure he's nowhere near me."
Would you rather have the chance of something bad happening????? or would you rather use common sense and prepare for the worst?
I know the government's invading our privacy and waaaaaay over stepping it's legal limits.But I don't just ignorantly cry wolf at every video that looks "bad" without researching on whether or not I'm wrong.
I save my input for a time that really matters, not just throwing unbacked insults at people, which is probably what most of the commenters on this page are going to do.
Oh, and yeah, what that group was planning was totally not violence, and the police where supposed to just walked away and let them threaten the democrats.You got me guys, there should be no such thing as public protection.
Now I'm not saying I condone all of the police's actions, but I am saying that a few assholes who somehow got a job as a police officer, DO NOT represent the entire American government, nor the police force in general.
Hey therooster
You state:
"They we're publicly discussing their plans to march up to the building and "raise hell" on the occupants,on their website for god's sake!!!"
Publically discussing something does not make you guilty of actually doing something.
Whenever the USgov has wanted to find someone guilty in the "war on terror", they have been unable to have them found guilty because "talking" about doing something is not the same as actually doing it.
Hey orlyfactor
Hey orlyfactor
You stated:
"Stereotyping over 300 million people as "stupid" is one of the most ignorant statements I have ever read, so you can add that to your list of faults as well."
In response to what I stated.
What you didn't notice is that I never said American's were or are stupid.
The point I was making was I can see how people from other countries who told me American's were stupid, could come to that conclusion.
I agree that all people, generally are stupid, but I would use the term, "pleasantly blind" or "knowingly know nothing".
Hey Rooster
@therooster
honestly, I had not realized that the day had come where you could be detained for "probably" going to do something. They should make a movie of that...oh wait they did.
Even if the group was a threat.
Kudos to therooster.
Acknowledging that It falls to a matter of "do what you have to do" in cases of violent protests, "punishing" crowds with pepper spray is over the line. It didn't quite come down to what it could have, but if you recall: the authority of fascist leaders, by definition, stems from force.
When riot officers are needed just to actively safeguard a convention, you know that the mess has hit the fan.
Funny, this didn't make CNN NBC FOX, even the CBC here in Canada
So the media is controlled, protesters whom show dissent towards the government are rounded up like cattle and detained, and the "democratic elections" of the republic are controlled and manipulated. The land of the free and the home of the brave ??? ...... hmmmmmmm, more like the land of the rich and the home of the slaves.
Rome is burning
Damn, I was never old enough to vote against Bush... But I've always known he was bad news.I've been in the same park many times, sometimes this video didn't even seem real to me.
Power to the people!
Hey Corey
I think most PEOPLE are stupid, it's not restricted to Americans. Also, when commenting on the intelligence of the people of a country, it helps to not use a possessive ("American's who are just...") when you should have just used the plural. So, you really have proven your point, at least for yourself.
Stereotyping over 300 million people as "stupid" is one of the most ignorant statements I have ever read, so you can add that to your list of faults as well. I realized the US Government was fascist since when i was in high school about 15 years ago, welcome to reality. Glad you could join us.
America is a disaster
Countries of the world, laugh at American's who are just coming too, realizing how far the USGov has fallen into facsim.
Sad, but true.
When people from other countries used to tell me. "Americans are stupid",
Finally, I can see why.
Corey Mondello
Boston, Massachusetts
www.CoreyMondello.com
8-26-08
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